"In a messaging system, a saga orchestrate a set of messages. The main benefit of using a saga is that it allows us to manage the interaction in a stateful manner (easy to think and reason about) while actually working in a distributed and asynchronous environment."
"What you describe is nice except it isn't a Saga it is more of a workflow. The notion of Saga which is originated from databases relates to the overall coordination of state between the different services - or the context for the whole business process. In the coffee shop example you use that would be the whole "transaction" from the point the customer orders her coffee until she either gets it or the transaction is canceled (e.g. it took too long and the customer leaves or the coffee shop is out of milk etc.)Unlike database (or distributed) transaction when/if a saga is aborted the different component of the system might not return to their previous state e.g. if the customer complains that the coffee is not good and gets her money back. the milk is not separated back from the coffee beans and returned to the bottle - rather the coffee cup goes to the trash.Workflow is one strategy a service can take to handle the long running interaction within a saga. In your case the BristaSaga class (which I think should be BristaWF) orchestrate the internal state transitions depending on the different messages that arrive within the saga. In your case you have a hardcoded workflow - but it is also possible to use a workflow engine for the job.By the way, in the above example you could also use a statemachine instead of a WF to manage the process "
Arnon: I'm not 100% sure of how you distinguish a Saga from a Workflow, could you elaborate some more on this?A Saga involves a number of underlying workflows?A Saga might as well contain a number of underlying Sagas?Isn't it just a question of at what level it is initiated?If a Saga should represent the whole transaction / business process, then who should handle it? Couldn't it be implemented as a Saga, exactly as Ayende describes it, by the initiating service (in this case the ordering)?, which then also is given the responsibility to handle restoring the total state etc of underlying/involved services if the transaction is aborted? The possibility to restore state does of course depend on what the specific Saga is handling, some processes might not be able to "rollback" completely, it's rather a question of rolling back all involved parties to a known/acceptable state."
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